EP. 5 Finding Your Calling ft. Breakthrough Coach Wilson Tremblais

What is a calling and how can you know when you have found your calling? In this guest episode with breakthrough coach Wilson Tremblais from France, we discuss about these questions. Wilson shares about his journey leading to his calling of coaching and how answering that calling turned out for him. Lastly, he gives an advice for how you may find your unique mission in life.

Xin Lei: Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of the Unbox Your Life podcast. This episode we are going to discuss about a calling and how do you know when you have found yours. And for this special episode, we have a guest from France. He’s my friend, and Wilson is a Breakthrough Coach. We both met in New Zealand. Wilson, would you like to introduce yourself?

Wilson: Yes, sure. Hi guys, my name is Wilson. As Xin said, I am a Breakthrough Coach. Xin, I want to say thank you for inviting me on your podcast. It was one of my dreams to be able to share my story with people. You are allowing me to do that, so thank you for that. Yes, so what I’m doing as a Breakthrough Coach is that I am helping people to expand their mind and to live in total alignment with their original self. This is my mission. And I’m so glad that I met someone like Xin because we are pretty much doing the same thing, same passion, and I’m so glad to be here and to speak about that.

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Xin Lei: Thank you, Wilson, for coming on my podcast. I knew I had to invite you because we just have so much in common. Even how we met was very fateful. We actually met in Christchurch. Wilson is one of the first few people I met when I arrived in New Zealand. Then I was in the hostel. Like, I didn’t know anyone. Then I met Wilson, and then we talked, and then we found out that we have so much in common, right? Yes, it was so mind-blowing. It was a surprise! I remember you told me that you have been there for close to 2 years already. You are also on a working holiday, but you’ve been there much more longer than I have. I’ve only been there like 2 days. Then I was like, oh, I want to learn more from you, and then we started talking, and then we talked about what we were doing, and then you said that you were working on a business and you didn’t tell me what it was at first, but then after that, I think I mentioned to you something about coaching. And then that was when you were like, oh, you’re doing coaching too?

Wilson: Yes, so it was such a surprise. I remember when we met, it was totally a process of faith because I’ve been spending 2 years already in New Zealand. I was working on this project, really working on answering the callings. But I’ve been through so many doubts and fears. But the period we met in Christchurch, it was the period when I said I am somehow stronger than the fear, stronger than the doubt, and I have a bounce of faith. I said, yeah, let’s go for it, and I went for it.

Xin Lei: Then you landed in Christchurch, and we met there.

Wilson: Then I landed in Christchurch where we met there. Actually I’ve been asking the universe for some signs. Okay, now I choose to answer the call, please send me some signs, please give me a hint, give me a little piece of something telling me yes, you are taking the right path. And then I dropped it. And I came to Christchurch, and then I met you. And then, conversation after conversation, we discovered that we are really having the same adventure. I was like, wow, wow.

Xin Lei: Yeah, I was like, wow too. Like I was so amazed. It wasn’t just that we found out we were doing the same thing. I remember we also found out we were reading the same book, The Power of Now. Exactly, you took out this book, right? And then, I was like wait a minute. It was in French, but I saw it, and I was like wait, then I took out my English book. Then, same title. Yes, then we were like, oh we are reading the same book.

You know, and that was when it was kind of an uncanny encounter. It’s so amazing. I felt the same way as you. Like, oh I think I made the right choice to come to New Zealand. It was also a sign from the universe for me, I guess. Like the moment I came, I took this courageous action to take the leap to go abroad, then immediately I met someone who is like on that journey that’s the same journey. And you know, because before that I hadn’t met anyone who was working on a coaching business. Well, some people around me knew it already, but then there was no one who was on the same journey. So it was kind of lonely for me to go on this journey, even though that was what my heart was telling me to. And then the moment I took that action, I met you. It was so amazing. I felt like ya, I made the right choice. And I was like super, super hyped.

Wilson: Yeah. It’s really comforting emotionally.

Xin Lei: And it wasn’t just about the business, it was also about our lives. Like, we talked for days. We went out on the street, right? And then we were in the accommodation. We just spent hours talking about our lives. And it was like we came from such different backgrounds. Like, you’re from France, and I’m from Singapore, right? Our life stories were also different, but yet similar in a way that, in terms of the twists and turns that we went through, and the lessons that we had, it was so similar. We talked really deeply and as if we knew each other for very long or something.

Wilson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was that feeling, you know? Because we spoke like we were sharing the personal things about our story, so it was like we knew each other from the beginning.

Xin Lei: It’s so rare to find someone whom I can talk to on such a deep level, from the soul. So I was just so happy to meet you.

Wilson: Yep me too. For sure.

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Xin Lei: Yep. So that’s why I hope that like our audience today can learn about your story and a bit more about specifically the calling. Because both of us, we found our calling in very similar things, travelling and coaching. So what is your opinion on what a calling is?

Wilson: Yeah, calling. I love this word because you can picture it, when you pick up the phone, you are making the decision to pick up the phone. This is calling for me, this process you will decide by yourself to accept the thing, you know what I mean? This is calling for me. You say Yes, Hello I am here. For me, it’s a really deep personal decision. The deepest actually, because it’s about your life, and when you answer the calling, you are somehow choosing the direction of your life.

Xin Lei: Yeah, I like how you say that it is a choice. You have to pick up the call, right?

Wilson: Yes, exactly.

Xin Lei: And it’s a drive? You said it’s a drive?

Wilson: Yes. The first thing is, for me, a personal decision. The second thing is what are you answering for. The call is that drive inside of you, telling you where you know you should go, that you know intuitively. Intuition, you know it’s not something logical. Yeah, that drive, this is the tricky thing because it’s not something you know intellectually understand. Sometimes you have to put aside your intellect and feel it in your guts, in your heart. Yeah, this is the drive. And answering the calling is when you accept what is driving you, you will work on it. Like you will take this and you will work on it until it’s fulfilled. You engage yourself. You say, okay, I am today committing to accept this particular thing in me and to go with it. This is the answering.

Xin Lei: Yes, I agree with you on that. Right, it’s not given to you from the outside. You know from young we do something because someone told us to? Yeah, like I remember that last time when I was obligated to do a lot of things, maybe like as a student I had to study and all those things right, it was not out of my own will, it was coming from the outside. And I was spending most of my time and energy doing that. But when it comes to a calling, nobody gave me that but it’s coming from inside of me, right? It’s something I gave myself, like I want to do that, it’s coming from my own will and not anyone else’s. And also do you think calling is specific to an individual?

Wilson: Oh, I love that question. I think many of us are asking that, with my friends and my clients. There are so many people asking if it is for everybody, in the way that it is only for some people with a special life or something. But I tend to say no. For me, we are what we got. No matter who you are, where you live, you have something inside of you. This is the thing that I am calling the original self in the way that we were born with that, this drive inside of us. We are only waiting for life to reveal it. This is my opinion.

Xin Lei: Ah, I like that. It’s a very beautiful description of a calling. I also agree with you. I personally believe that everyone has a gift to offer to this world. We are similar in our humanity, but then we are different also, that we all have our unique gifts that we can offer to this world and that’s why I also think that the calling is quite specific, and I think everyone has a calling that they can discover. Yeah, I feel like it’s a “If not me, then who” kind of thing to it. I believe so, because it’s like, you look at your life experiences, you look at your personality, your nature, your strengths, and your calling is kind of related to that.

Wilson: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. I totally agree with you because for example in my story, I took almost two years to be aware that if it’s not me, who else. I came to the conclusion after two years of me working on answering the question that this is really the thing I wanted to do. It’s my life mission, you know what I mean? It’s really deep conviction, but it’s just me, no one else can do it so yeah let’s go for it.

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Xin Lei: Yeah, so it’s quite specific, right? But still, everyone would have a calling. Everyone has something special to contribute in this world. So now you have a strong conviction about your calling, right? But how was your life like before you found your calling, if you don’t mind sharing?

Wilson: Yeah, I told you how I found my calling, but the beginning of the thing is my whole story actually. You know, my childhood when I grew up in France, my young adult life, experiences that really bring me to the place where I felt so lost. Everything, emotionally, professionally, spiritually, every area of my life, it was total chaos. I was a walking dead in the way that I was dead inside. I was working, working, but there was nothing driving me from inside. It was empty, my heart was empty, my soul was empty. At 25 years old, I came to the conclusion that this is not the life that I wanted to live anymore. From there all the archives I had from my past came to the point that they want to blossom, you know what I mean? It’s like a seed inside of me that wanting to blossom. And there is like a strong feeling of okay now just let it through like let it go. Just relax. But these two years, before I met you, the work that I’ve done on myself was that, contemplating my life in the past, contemplating what was the process I’ve been through, and then accept it, embrace it and then use it. I’ve been really trying to make it work for me.

Xin Lei: So it seems you hit the rock bottom from whatever happened in the past. But then you told yourself that something has got to change, right? And you made the choice to change things for yourself. And you have done the inner work during two years of time too. And did that become a turning point for you? So how did things change for you?

Wilson: Oh for me, I like to say, it started from dark to light. Absolutely. In the way that I’ve been like this almost all my life long because I had really a hard childhood in Madagascar with the poverty. I grew up with my grandma. My mom and my dad left me to my grandma. She raised me with my cousins. We were like 10 children but she couldn’t really pay attention to me specifically so I’ve been a little bit like a lost child if I may say. I was spending my time mostly by myself outside looking for toys in the rubbish in the neighborhood. Yes I’ve been a lonely boy, as far as I can remember. As well as at school. I didn’t have parents, so my life was surviving mode every time. I was surviving at school. My teachers, when I was little, they were bullying me. In Africa, in Madagascar we can beat your students. So my teacher was beating me, they were beating me because I was not good at school. So I became the worst at school from there. And at home as well my big cousin was bullying me because I had no one to protect me. My grandma had not enough energy for all the children she had. So from there I start this feeling of oh I’m not worthy. It’s from there I really closed my heart somehow and protect myself. Actually I was really challenged when I was a child because I was missing my parents. I didn’t know them. And I was facing the bullying at school and at home as well. So most of my time, when I felt really I was myself it was when I was alone by myself in the middle of the rubbish in the neighborhood. It was there that I didn’t have to deal with people. I was just enjoying my own presence, you know? And when I came to France…

Xin Lei: So you immigrated, right?

Wilson: Yes, I immigrated to France when I was 10 years old. My mom, she took me to France from Madagascar. But I didn’t know her, she didn’t know me. It was so strange. The first time I met my mom I was 10 years old I was like oh okay she’s my mom. So everything from there was so challenging because I faced a totally different culture. I had to learn the language, how to behave as we do in France. So yeah, it was really challenging for me. It didn’t help me to open up. Because from Madagascar I was already closed. I was protecting myself already because of all that I’ve been through. And when I came to France as well, it didn’t help me at all to really free myself. I grew up like that because I didn’t have the opportunity to pop up the bubble I used to be inside. So it became so heavy, it became like a shell. Because the challenges I’ve been through when I arrived in France didn’t help me at all to lighten this bubble. So it became really thicker and thicker.

Xin Lei: Yeah, so at 25 years old, you decided that you don’t want to be trapped in this anymore. It was weighing you down too much.

Wilson: Exactly. Yes, I was really tired. I remember it was the first time I was talking to myself like that. I remember I said I’m tired, emotionally, physically because I felt like it was so long now. For me, every day it was a struggle because I couldn’t be myself. It was every day a fight, like every almost every interaction I had, it was a battle. Because I knew that I couldn’t be myself properly because of this protection my life experiences put on me, and this is the frustration point I had there. It was really rare I was really myself. I had like a probably just few people I could be totally myself with, but there are one or two people maximum at this period. Yeah this is the hardship.

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Xin Lei: So you decided that you don’t want that anymore. So what actions did you take to transform your life from there after all that you have been through?

Wilson: Um yeah so it was really intuitive. It was this deep goal of change. Like enough is enough. Like I told you, I was really tired like I felt it in my body every day it was heavy. I couldn’t watch myself in the mirror. Everything was a challenge. I knew that I had to go somewhere else. I had to reevaluate. I had to take a step back. It was the first time I paid really clear attention. And then my life showed up an opportunity. One of my colleagues told me, why not we go somewhere overseas and then we can go and travel there, and we can probably go to an English speaking country and can learn English as well in the same occasion. Why not? It was the thing I needed right at this moment. The calling of adventure was there. I said, yes, okay, let’s go. So I said to my friend, okay, I want to go with you to New Zealand, and then this is the first action. That decision was my first action. The transformation was from there because from there I knew that I am in the process of changing. Before I arrived in New Zealand, I already changed because in a way it was a shift for me. I came from the place where I used to feel like a victim of my circumstances. And it’s like I’m tired of this feeling. I want to be able to wake up and say I enjoy my life. This is the big challenge I was answering. I want to create a life that can fascinate me, can give me this deep feeling of connection. When I woke up, I said yes, I woke up for something, I woke up for that. This is the thing I was searching for.

Xin Lei: Wow, that’s amazing. Cause back then, you answered this call of adventure, not knowing what to expect there, but then that itself is a choice, it’s like a statement that you’re making that you want something more than what you had been experiencing. Actually, not just more, you want something the opposite of what you had experienced, right? You want something opposite and you want to get to a point where you’re enjoying your life.

Wilson: Yeah, enjoying and passionate about it and to be expressing the fullest of myself. This is the thing, this is the calling I answered. Because it was deep inside, and like you asked before, did you know that you would come up to become a coach? No, I didn’t know at all. From the beginning, it was just a feeling. That feeling of I want something, but I didn’t know what. (Laugh) You know, Xin? I didn’t know at all.

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Xin Lei: Yeah, then I’m curious, how did you eventually get to the point where you found coaching as a calling? After you went to New Zealand, what happened there that led you to start on this coaching as a calling?

Wilson: Like I told you, six months before I arrived in New Zealand, this is when I decided to change my life. I think the change was done there that day. I still remember in my mind so clearly. I said, yes, I’m done with this life I got before. I am creating that one. I choose the one that I wanted. And then from there, I said, let’s create something new and something bigger for me professionally. I said to myself, I want to improve all my life. I was focused on the professional area. I said I want to create something. I want to create a business for me, for myself, something that I can be passionate about, something that I can share with people, something that I can really be really useful with.

But I didn’t know what precisely. I have some ideas in my mind. At the beginning, I was starting to picture myself becoming a fitness coach, because I already have some skills. I can improve them. So let’s go, why not? Then I went… yeah, I remember that for almost six months I said yes, I will be a fitness coach, but at the beginning it was just a feeling if I may say. It was not precise, it was not clear. Somehow it’s like a process to make it clear. So then, I wanted to become a music producer because I met a guy during my travel in New Zealand who was doing music as well and he said ah Wilson you have a guitar, you have a computer to do music, let’s do some music. Maybe this is my calling? So I tried for eight months to figure out if it’s really for me. But at the end, more and more, there’s something showing up telling me trust in yourself. At the end, after eight months I felt like, yeah I love music, but it’s not my calling. It’s like this deep intuition. You said, oh, okay, all right. So, because at the same time I have another passion growing, it was the passion of personal development and my quest in spirituality as well.

Xin Lei: Ohh, personal development. Umm.

Wilson: Yeah, personal development and spirituality as well starting to pop up and that really grew. I said oh why not. I was starting to share around me about my knowledge, my life experiences and I see that I’m really starting to really make differences in my relationships because of that. And even with my family, I changed my relationship with my mom because of the work I’ve done on myself. Absolutely. I wanted to tell you that this is absolutely one of my biggest successes. The total improvement in the relationship I have with my mom because before that we didn’t have any connection. Like I told you she didn’t know me. I didn’t know her, and she was the person I needed the most, but she was not able to connect with me in that way. When I’ve done this work, I opened up and I reconnected with my mom. For me, it was the real proof that the transformation is there. Even my mom, after two years I called her, she told me Wilson, I’m so proud of you. The first time in my life, my mom told me that. She said because I felt like every time we call you are a totally different person in the way that you changed in so good way. She told me that really clearly. I said wow, really. I am doing the transformation, I am changing and I see now she was reflecting back. And especially her because she was the most important person in my life when I grew up. So to hear that from her, it was the biggest time I know with certainty that I am walking my own path of change.

Xin Lei: So, yeah, you saw that your life changed, saw the results of the work that you did. And so, that is what you want to share with people?

Wilson: Yeah, exactly. This is where I told you it was not clear at the beginning what I wanted, like what is the thing that I was able to share willingly and with passion, and it can serve people. I didn’t know, but at this point, I started to see it, because like I told you, the way I changed, I shifted. It’s not just change, it’s that shift because the way I shift my relationship with my mom for example, for me it was so drastic.

Xin Lei: At this point, did you know that this is your calling?

Wilson: Yeah, somehow at some point. I don’t know if the feeling accidentally start one day. It’s like a shift, like it happened once again. This is it! This feeling of This is it! (Laugh) I was like, whoa. I picture myself doing the thing, and I said holy I want this. Because it was so deep like I can feel it all over my body. I said why not? Because I can fully picture myself with this dream to become a coach. It was a dream before. Before everything I have today, the coaching, the website, the Instagram. Before that it was just a dream.

Xin Lei: Yeah. And now you know it’s it?

Wilson: Yeah exactly.

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Xin Lei: And perhaps this is something we can discuss together like how does one know when they have found a calling? Very specifically a calling which is a huge thing. How can they be sure that is a calling, not just something maybe like an interest or something?

Wilson: Really good question actually. Because I think the core issue we have today especially with our generation between 20 and 30 years old, is we lost the sight of the calling. Because we are so lost in the choices, because we have our interests and passions. But we’re not sure what is the calling. From my own experience, from the way my clients describe me and their experience as well, I can say it’s not something just about passion. Because people think that the calling is a passion right? I said no no no it’s not necessarily your passion. Your calling is something beyond the passion. The passion is for your entertainment. You are enjoying. But the calling is something deeper than that.

Xin Lei: Um, how so?

Wilson: How so? I’ve been through some resistance as well because the calling is not the easiest thing. Often times it’s the hardest choice. And I see now, when I look back, every time when I choose to answer the calling, it was not the easiest choice for sure. Because I had to challenge myself every day because of this calling. And I have to challenge myself today as well. And this is the hardship people are stuck on today. This is the thing I want to say. People, because they are afraid of hardship, they are afraid to challenge themselves. They don’t know really what is the feeling of having to answer a call, to have a mission in life, you know what I mean? And I was there before, I was at this place where I didn’t know at all what is my life mission is. But once you know, like a direction you’re showing me. Once I know that this is the thing I want to do, like I told you I want to be a coach. Once I answer this question, what I want, I said yes, I want to become a coach. From there, I have to push myself to challenge myself for many things in order to make it happen. Yeah, this is the not easy part of the calling.

Xin Lei: So basically, it’s not always pleasant. It’s not a thing that you found it, then it will be pleasant all the time. But there’s bound to be obstacles, right?

Wilson: Yeah, exactly.

Xin Lei: But you know, I like this, there’s this mantra that I follow. It’s that The Obstacle is The Pathway. And I think that once you found your calling, whatever is in the way is the way. You know what I mean? Like these things that are challenging, right, they are there to push you to grow. Because if it’s not challenging right, then you can’t grow, you can’t level up, then you can’t answer that calling right?

Wilson: Yeah, exactly.

Xin Lei: But then again that goes back to how do you know it’s a calling again? So yeah, it’s something really deep. If it’s something that even with obstacles in the way, you’re still willing to push through, then it must be on a really deep level for you to be able to go there. Because I think it’s just a kind of human instinct right, that we want to avoid hardship and we want comfort. Yeah, like this is the most basic human instinct, but there’s something on a higher level that makes us want to strive for growth, to push past our resistances and all that. And I think that is the calling.

And if I may just share my opinion on this, how I know it’s a calling right, it’s that it’s just in me and and it only gets stronger and stronger. It doesn’t get weaker. If it’s a passion right, sometimes it can kind of die out like after a few months. Like you know it’s kind of an energy that just passes through for a while then after that you give it up. But then for calling right, it doesn’t seem to go away. It actually gets stronger like for me on my journey now it has only been stronger and stronger.

Wilson: Yes, me too.

Xin Lei: Yeah, you too right? And of course there are times that we go through downs, life is not always up, it’s like down and up, but generally I’m able to get back on my feet again and get back to working on the calling. I got this thing that is a drive inside of me. Like I said before about what I think a calling is, it is something coming from your own. Well it’s inside of you. You yourself giving orders. That’s how I know it is a calling because like I wake up every day, I know what to do. Before I found my calling, I think I still felt bored if no one told me what to do. So when I was a student and we have school holidays right, we didn’t have to study or something anymore. Then it’s like I suddenly feel very lost, and I think other students would agree that like they would have this period where they suddenly feel very lost because they live their lives like kind of being directed externally and then suddenly when there’s no more of that, then you’re lost. But then when you found a calling, right, something that’s so so so important for you to address and it’s coming from inside, then I think you will always know at least in which direction you should be going towards. Yeah, that’s for me.

Wilson: The way I see it as well, it’s like a deep inner guidance. No one told you. No one told you to create a coaching business. Not your parents, Not your teachers. Cause actually you quit your job Xin. Then you said you want to create something else for myself. This energy, the same as I have for myself, push me to create this. For me, there is like a guidance. Even when I look at my life today, the way I make my decision today, it’s so guided for sure. Intuitively guided.

Xin Lei: And to add on right, I think it doesn’t only have to be from internal kind of knowing. There can be a feedback from the outside as well. And I think that’s like what you said earlier about the signs from the universe. I don’t know if you experienced this as well. Like for me, I find that after I answered my calling, things have been just kind of aligning more and more.

Wilson: Yes, yes… I wanted to talk about that.

Xin Lei: Yeah. I started meeting people who are more aligned with who I am and my cause, like you, this is a very strong example. I met you, but even after I met you, I also met many people along the way who just aligned with me in some way. And that didn’t happen before I found my calling. I always felt like I was in the wrong place doing the wrong thing, like do you experience that?

Wilson: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely. And you know, I was lost before, and I felt like I didn’t belong anywhere, absolutely not. Before I answered my calling, yeah, my life was meaningless. I felt like I was surviving around people. Just to compare, in my life today there is something unusual happening Xin. The alignments, the coincidences, the surprises. That I say Wow. For me sometimes it’s a miracle, the way that I saw how things show up on my way. I said no way, it’s like wow, it’s impossible.

Xin Lei: Yeah it’s amazing right?

Wilson: Yeah exactly. And it didn’t happen in my life before. It never happened, like almost never. You know this kind of experience of holy I know that this thing is happening because I make this choice. Something surprisingly good happened to me because I make an inner decision. This is the thing I want to share to people there. It’s like a magical happening when you have faith in yourself. This is what answering the calling is. When you have faith in yourself, you know that you can achieve whatever you want, whatever you desire, whatever you dream about and you take action for it, it makes magic happen around you. Your relationship will shift, people around you will reflect what you have inside because they will feel that guy, he has something different, you know what I mean?

I had so many people come to me and say oh, who are you, like really? First time in my life people are asking me, who are you, like really, face to face, because they saw me, they were attracted to me because they felt something different inside of me. I had this type of experience so many times ever since and more and more. People are coming to me saying, oh, Wilson where do you come from? What do you do? Without talking about my coaching skills anything. No, no, no. Just my energy. This is the shift, you know. Before, my energy was so low. It was so negative for sure. And today, the energy I have, my presence I have when I am with people, this energy you can feel there. Okay, this guy has something driving him.

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Xin Lei: Yeah, and they’re attracted to that. So, Wilson, if you meet someone who comes to you and tells you that they don’t know what their purpose is and they’re feeling very lost in life, how can they find their calling? What advice would you give them?

Wilson: Yes, I will say don’t look what’s happening outside. Don’t look outside, what people do or what society is currently pushing you to do. This is the thing, and this is the work you know you have to do as well. This, I think for me, the key is really focus on yourself. Know yourself first. Absolutely. Because today, I come up with this certainty that this is the thing I want for me, for my life. Because I’ve done the work to know myself, I know it for sure.

Xin Lei: So you mentioned that this is a very inner thing, that they first have to overcome external pressure right? Because there’s so many voices outside of us that can confuse us or lead us in other directions that are not our calling at all.

Wilson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So yeah, you were asking me if I have some advice for people who are looking for their life purpose. It’s that the key is there. Just know yourself inside of your mind. Know what is keeping you away from your own truth.

Xin Lei: Yeah, knowing yourself, self-knowledge is so important, right? It can really be a lifelong journey to find out that. We are continually knowing more about ourselves.

Wilson: Yes, exactly! And I think this is the work I begin naturally with. I begin naturally with spending time with myself, working in nature, meditation, speaking to myself, journaling, shadow work, so many things that can help me to get rid of all these layers that are on my shell, that are keeping me away from myself that I accumulated throughout the years. So, yeah for sure. If I have one advice today for people who are struggling to find what their calling, their life purpose is, it’s that. Start from you because it will all come from you. Everything will come from you.

Xin Lei: Yes. No one can give you that. No one can tell you what your calling is. Right?

Wilson: Yes, exactly. But you’ve got to do the work.

Xin Lei: Yeah, do the work. Right?

Wilson: Yes, absolutely. And once you know yourself, it will come naturally. You will see naturally that clearly, it will come to you naturally. Don’t worry about what it is. Don’t put the question there. Worry about who you are, who you really are. Focus on knowing who you are first before you want to know what you really want. Because it will come from who you are.

Xin Lei: Well said, I totally agree with that. Okay thank you so much, Wilson, for your incredible sharings. You have such deep insight, I really respect you for it.

Wilson: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Xin Lei: I hope our audience, after listening to your story and your insights, they get inspired and have a little more faith in themselves to do go on this journey, like to find themselves, find their calling. I wish you all the best in your coaching journey as well. I think you’re gonna achieve great things. Do you happen to have a vision of where you will go with this coaching thing? What’s your vision? Do you have one?

Wilson: Okay, I have something now pushing me almost three years, four years now. The dream I’m still in it actually.

Xin Lei: Oh what’s that dream?

Wilson: The clear picture in my mind when I felt like yes this is for me and this is the thing I want to do and I want to achieve and I’m going for it, this thing is to build a kind of school where coaches like me, gather their knowledge and their life experiences, to build something like a fellow, a scholarship to help in this life area. Because this is the big lack that we have today in our society. At school we don’t learn what is really life and there’s so many things we can cover now outside of school. This is my dream.

Xin Lei: Wow, that’s great. That’s a big dream, but you know, it’s so exciting. I am looking forward to the day that you will set up this school. Please invite me too.

Wilson: For sure.

Xin Lei: Okay yeah, I wish you all the best with that.

Wilson: Thank you very much Xin.

Xin Lei: Thank you once again for coming onto this podcast. If our audience wants to find you, where can they find you?

Wilson: Yeah I have Instagram you can find me @wilsontremblais.

Xin Lei: For any of you who wants to know more about what Wilson does, please give him a follow on Instagram. I know Wilson is going to create a podcast as well, so follow him for the updates to his podcast. Yeah so alright, that’s all for today. Thank you for listening, and we’ll see you again. Goodbye.

Wilson: Goodbye, guys.